The Wilding

Dec. 5th, 2005 04:49 am
[personal profile] kodalai
To: C.S. Friedman
Re: 'The Wilding'

DEAR C.S. FRIEDMAN,

PLEASE TO STOP WRITING BOOKS ABOUT NOBLE WARRIOR ALIEN RAPISTS AND GO BACK TO VAMPIRES AND SLASHY GOODNESS. I KNOW I COMPLAIN WHEN ANNE RICE DOES IT BUT YOU'RE SPECIAL.

AND WHILE YOU'RE AT IT MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST STOP WRITING ABOUT HUMAN WOMEN AT ALL BECAUSE THEY INVARIABLY SUCK. STICK TO ALIEN WOMEN THAT ALWAYS SEEMS TO TURN OUT BETTER.

THAT WOULD BE NICE K THX BAI

Love,

[edit] Approximate summary of character dynamics in 'The Wilding':

Manly Male character: This is the society I'm from. It's very manly. It involves a lot of rape. We're a warrior society that exalts manly virtues such as being dumb bigots, killing each other, and raping women. Manly manly manly. Did I mention the rape? Hur hur hur.
Weak Female character: Eek! How manly! I am somehow inexplicably attracted to your manliness! Swoon!
Pussy male character: This is the society I'm from. It values diplomacy and human rights and other things which are not manly. We don't get much screen time. As a matter of fact, we don't do a goddamn thing in this book at all.
Manly Male character: Hey, my society's gonna come over into your society's backyard and rape it. Hur hur hur.
Pussy male character: Eek!
'Strong' Female character: I am a ridiculously powerful telepath who is strong and angry and hates men and is probably a lesbian.
Manly Male Character: I counter your ridiculously powerful telepathy with rape! Hur hur hur.
'Strong' Female character: Oh, for God's sake. I mean, eek!

Date: 2005-12-05 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikah.livejournal.com
...

Wow, that was the best book-pimp ever.

Date: 2005-12-05 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikah.livejournal.com
And that's precisely why I must read it. I was born with a bad case of TWS, alas. :(

Date: 2005-12-05 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kodalai.livejournal.com
Nonono, don't start with The Wilding. D: Read Madness Season or This Alien Shore first. They have the same style and are much better written and won't give you a prejudiced view of Friedman's writing which is generally quite decent except for this.

Date: 2005-12-05 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reikah.livejournal.com
But I can't resist such a negative review! *whiine*

Date: 2005-12-05 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cerusee.livejournal.com
Read it after you've read one of her good books, though, so you can see how good she can be when she's at the top of her game.

Date: 2005-12-05 03:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nekojita.livejournal.com
... oh dear. Should I pick up that book or not?

Date: 2005-12-05 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cerusee.livejournal.com
Not. It bites. Pick up "Madness Season" or the Coldfire Trilogy; those're much, much better.

Date: 2005-12-05 04:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nekojita.livejournal.com
I already have those. ^_^

Date: 2005-12-05 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kodalai.livejournal.com
Not. It's awful. It's as though Friedman combed through all her other books to find the worst elements of it and stirred them all together in a big crockpot full of misogyny. Every male character is a rapist. Every female character is a weak, helpless wuss, even the ones that are supposed to be 'strong.' Plus, I got this very distinct feeling that every single marginally interesting plot element in the book had already been used in another book before this one.

I picked up a hardback copy for $25 and I haven't even been able to resell it on half.com for 99 cents.

I mean, seriously, I'm re-reading Madness Season lately and saying to myself "This book is so damn good, what happened!?!"

Date: 2005-12-05 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kodalai.livejournal.com
Approximate summary of character interactions in 'The Wilding':

Male character: This is the society I'm from. It involves a lot of rape. It's very manly. We're a warrior society that exalts manly virtues such as being dumb bigots, killing each other, and raping women. Manly manly manly. Did I mention the rape? Hur hur hur.
Female character: Eek!
Male character: What a nice day. It makes me feel very manly. So manly that I just have to go out and rape me some women. Hur hur hur.
Female character: Eek! How manly! I am somehow inexplicably attracted to your manliness! Swoon!
Female character: I am a ridiculously powerful telepath who is strong and angry and hates men and is probably a lesbian.
Male: I counter your ridiculously powerful telepathy with rape! Hur hur hur.
Female character: Eek!
Pussy male character: This is the society I'm from. It values diplomacy and human rights values and other things which are not manly. We don't get much screen time. As a matter of fact, we don't do a goddamn thing in this book whatsoever.
Male character: Hey, my society's gonna come over into you're society's backyard and rape it. Hur hur hur.
Pussy male character: Oh, for God's sake. I mean, eek!

Date: 2005-12-05 04:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nekojita.livejournal.com
....*GAH*....

Thanks for saving us the pain. I would have picked up this book (in paperback, though) and it would have just joined my LKH collection.

Date: 2005-12-05 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kodalai.livejournal.com
It makes me weep in pain. You were once so good, Friedman. What happened? ;-;

Date: 2005-12-05 04:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nekojita.livejournal.com
*shakes head* I used to love her (?) books, too, have several of them on my shelves. It sucks when formerly good authors go bad.

Date: 2005-12-05 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kodalai.livejournal.com
Still hoping she'll go back to being good. It was just one book, and a followup to what was probably her first baby (In Conquest Born.) Maybe she'll get it out of her system. *crosses fingers*

Date: 2005-12-05 04:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] nekojita.livejournal.com
True. At least she doesn't crunch the deadlines like a few other authors - maybe she just had a bad year like a lot of us and that's what happened to the book. Still not gonna buy it, though!

Date: 2005-12-05 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cerusee.livejournal.com
So far, the good books still outnumber the bad. It's not like The Simpsons. Yet. *crosses fingers*

Date: 2005-12-05 05:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] darksea.livejournal.com
Can I kill the male character? Please? Better yet, can I neuter him?

Date: 2005-12-05 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alphasean.livejournal.com
hahaha. Did you actually end up reading it through? I always start books but fail to finish them. I can imagine simply finishing this one out of morbid curiosity, though. I've certainly done that before.

Date: 2005-12-05 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] windandwater.livejournal.com
This post just killed me and Aoi-chan. AT THE SAME TIME.

... hur hur hur?

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